Comms setup

Wiz

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So I've finally got the comms setup on my bike working really well with no interference from the engine at all. What I found was that the area around the fuse box creates loads of electrical noise, but siting the crucial cables over the other side works wonders. Here are a few notes and pictures which you may find helpful.

1. Put the Bluetooth module alongside the battery as shown in picture 1. It picks up the least amount of electrical noise there.

2. For music from the Zumo, run the isolated music lead down the right hand side of the bike (same side as the Bluetooth module) and tuck the isolation block where indicated in pic 1, this is also a very electrically quiet area.

3. The Autocom Bluetooth module goes into the "Riders Phone" socket and the isolated music lead goes into the "Stereo music in" socket on the Autocom.

4. As discussed elsewhere, the Bluetooth chip in the Zumo 660 is shite. You cannot successfully pair your phone through the Zumo and expect to be heard by the other party (the 550 is fine). Therefore, if you have a 660, you must pair your phone directly with the Autocom Bluetooth module. To make this a good solution, you need to then mount your phone on the bike somewhere accessible in a waterproof case (Pic 2). For making calls, you can press and hold the home button to activate SIRI (if you have an iPhone) or the voice dial button on your phone. Siri works really well, even on the motorway I was able to voice dial people with complete accuracy. If you hear a text message come in, press the home button and ask Siri to read it to you, that works great too. If you get a call, you have three rings before the Autocom Bluetooth module will auto-answer for you. In that time, if you see it's a call you don't want to take, you can press the "power" button on the phone and it'll send the call to answerphone.

The whole thing works very well and is great quality, the only problem being that if you call someone and get their answerphone, there is no easy way to hang up :goofy:. I'm working on a solution for that and have a few ideas in mind which I'll post once I've tried them.

5. If you have a bike-bike radio, an external antenna is a must for any kind of range. If you ever ride with a pillion, you must have a PTT button else you'll broadcast your entire conversation with your pillion to everyone else with a radio (this has happened! :}). Mounting the PTT button is easy (Pic 3), again try and keep the cables on the right for least interference.

6. Finally, something that most people get wrong with these systems: It's really important that you have the volume on the Autocom set as low as possible. This is because the audio source from your iPhone or Zumo is already amplified and the Autocom will amplify it again along with any electrical noise it has picked up on the journey between the device and your Autocom. So, to start with, set your phone and Zumo volumes to maximum and the Autocom volume to minimum, then slowly turn up the volume on the Autocom until it's as loud as you'll ever reasonably need it. Leave the Autocom set at that volume, then back off the volume on your device a little (say to 90%). This gives you the best possible quality of audio with a little extra volume available from the Zumo or phone if you really need it.

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GarySN

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Using iPhone on the move

Hi Keith

I recently got some conductive thread off eBay for 99p for a metre after seeing this. Sewed a thick loop of it into the thumb of my left (summer) glove, and I can easily operate the touch screen for simple things like ending calls or dismissing notifications. I think you have the same case as me, which allows use of the touch screen through the plastic cover. If so, my solution works fine with that too. Haven't had the heart to stick a needle through my waterproof gloves yet...

Cheers

Gary
 
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Wiz

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Hi Keith

I recently got some conductive thread off eBay for 99p for a metre after seeing this. Sewed a thick loop of it into the thumb of my left (summer) glove, and I can easily operate the touch screen for simple things like ending calls or dismissing notifications. I think you have the same case as me, which allows use of the touch screen through the plastic cover. If so, my solution works fine with that too. Haven't had the heart to stick a needle through my waterproof gloves yet...

Cheers

Gary
Yeah I mentioned that solution on another thread (no pun intended :goofy:). Seems an ok idea, but if you did that on winter gloves, I bet the finger with the thread would get cold as hell as it'll conduct the cold as well as the electricity! My other idea is along the lines of a waterproof button, connected to a 3.5mm 4 pole jack plug. The button would simply short poles 3 and 4 on the jack, which is what the remote control button does on the wired headphones. This would potentially answer calls, hang up calls, skip tracks forward and back and pause/play music and activate SIRI, just like the remote wire headphones do. In theory it should work fine, I'm going to try it soon...




The button that shorts those two poles has all the following functions:

1. If you're listening to music, toggle pause or play by tapping the centre button once.
2. To fast-forward a song, tap the centre button twice and long-press on the second tap.
3. To rewind a song, tap three times and long-press on the third tap.
4. To skip a song, double tap.
5. To go to the previous song, triple tap.
6. If you have an incoming call, tap the centre button once to answer. Tap again to hang up.
7. To ignore an incoming call, long-press the centre button. You'll hear two beeps to confirm that the caller was sent to voice mail.
8. If you're on the phone and you get a new call, tap the centre button once to switch calls. To end that new call, hold the centre button down for 2 seconds.
9. For iPhone 4S/5 owners: prompt Siri by long-pressing the centre button.
 

evengreyerbiker

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My other idea is along the lines of a waterproof button, connected to a 3.5mm 4 pole jack plug. The button would simply short poles 3 and 4 on the jack, which is what the remote control button does on the wired headphones. This would potentially answer calls, hang up calls, skip tracks forward and back and pause/play music and activate SIRI, just like the remote wire headphones do. In theory it should work fine, I'm going to try it soon...

1. If you're listening to music, toggle pause or play by tapping the centre button once.
2. To fast-forward a song, tap the centre button twice and long-press on the second tap.
3. To rewind a song, tap three times and long-press on the third tap.
4. To skip a song, double tap.
5. To go to the previous song, triple tap.
6. If you have an incoming call, tap the centre button once to answer. Tap again to hang up.
7. To ignore an incoming call, long-press the centre button. You'll hear two beeps to confirm that the caller was sent to voice mail.
8. If you're on the phone and you get a new call, tap the centre button once to switch calls. To end that new call, hold the centre button down for 2 seconds.
9. For iPhone 4S/5 owners: prompt Siri by long-pressing the centre button.
Sorry if I am being obtuse (= thick!:dunce:)

Am I correct in assuming that the above only applies with a wired connection between iPhone and Autocomm? Or could the button be connected to the iPhone audio socket and work in conjunction with the BlueTooth connection to the Autocomm? :h:
 

Ian Daly

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Kieth, I think it was this tread where I read about problems with controlling phone/satnav/iplayer, if not hopefully you'll see this anyway. I have no idea if they'd be of any use or are any good (electrics on bike means lights and sparks only:dunce:) but have a look at this, sorry if it's old new to you. http://www.beartekgloves.com/

Cheers

Ian
 

JZH

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4. As discussed elsewhere, the Bluetooth chip in the Zumo 660 is shite. You cannot successfully pair your phone through the Zumo and expect to be heard by the other party (the 550 is fine). Therefore, if you have a 660, you must pair your phone directly with the Autocom Bluetooth module.
Bloody hell. I thought they had fixed this? Looks like I'll be waiting for the "770", rather than buying a 660... :mad:

Ciao,
 

Wiz

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Sorry if I am being obtuse (= thick!:dunce:)

Am I correct in assuming that the above only applies with a wired connection between iPhone and Autocomm? Or could the button be connected to the iPhone audio socket and work in conjunction with the BlueTooth connection to the Autocomm? :h:
Sorry missed this...

Yes you could use it just to control the iphone whilst it's in Bluetooth mode. It would just be necessary to make sure that only the two pins that control the function are connected, not the mic/speaker poles etc.
 
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